[nexus]

http://www.thehotfix...showtopic=21122

I thought everyone said it was impossible due to the tight integration of dx10 and the driver model, graphics subsystems present in vista, maybe this is just some hack to 'fake it' to games and report dx10 is there when its really not?

someone technically inclined take a look and report back. if it works i know a lot of people will be happy...

[Hiroshi]

Doesn't work as it should...

[peacho]

Hiroshi, on Oct 21 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

Doesn't work as it should...

Which isn't too surprising.

[ekodaniel]

If people want dx10 so bad go with Windows Vista or just wait for Windows 7 release.

[steve-]

Hiroshi, on Oct 21 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

Doesn't work as it should...

Wouldn't a lack of driver support in XP be the main cause? I always thought it was silly to put DX10 on XP when ATi/nVidia would never bother supporting it.

[AlphaAlien]

XP diamondz

couldn't help myself

[Panda X]

It's is absolutely impossible in any way to port DirectX 10 to Windows XP. Why, you may ask? Well it's simple really. Windows XP uses the XPDM (XP Display Driver Model) driver. It has been made for DirectX 9. Windows Vista uses the WDDM (Windows Display Driver Model) driver. It is so much different that there had to be a special remake of DirectX 9 called DirectX9 Ex. Now you may think you can just replace DLLs and be on your way. Wrong. You'd need to port back the WDDM drivers, and in doing so porting back the kernel. After you've done that you'd need to port back everything in Vista to XP. Which would make it, well Vista. All those stupid patches do is change the DirectX build number. I can change my build tag in Vista to Build 6.1.6801.winmain_win7m3.080913-2030 though that doesn't make it Windows 7 does it? No.

[Svyat]

Sorry for my bad English!

But I'm pretty sure, that Microsoft can make (not to port from Vista) DirectX10 to XP/2K3.

Yes, I know, it's very difficult to port DX10 from Vista to XP, Because WDDM could not be ported to XP, there are a lot of things, like gdi32.dll (D3DKMT* functions) from XP doesn't meet WDDM requirements. But I have ported gdi32.dll to XP from Vista build 5219, but it's too old version, to make WDDM drivers work.

And we (www.lwgame.net) tries to make it work, as a result we have made the 3DMark Vantage start on 2K3 but. not to work due to dxgi.dll exception.


And I beleave, that soon somebody will make DX10 work on XP/2K3!

[huberth hidalgo]

nexus, on Oct 7 2008, 07:51 PM, said:

http://www.thehotfix...showtopic=21122

I thought everyone said it was impossible due to the tight integration of dx10 and the driver model, graphics subsystems present in vista, maybe this is just some hack to 'fake it' to games and report dx10 is there when its really not?

someone technically inclined take a look and report back. if it works i know a lot of people will be happy...

mil gracias

[Elevado]

How about DX11 of Windows 7? They were also planning it to make it as a DX10 upgrade, right? I hope they also make it a DX9 upgrade.

[Panda X]

Elevado, on Jan 24 2009, 08:43 AM, said:

How about DX11 of Windows 7? They were also planning it to make it as a DX10 upgrade, right? I hope they also make it a DX9 upgrade.

What do you mean "upgrade"?

[XX55XX]

They could port it, I believe.

But is it really that prudent to do so? One of Vista's biggest selling points was its much-vaunted Direct-X 10 support. Porting it back to XP would not only be time consuming, it would also be undermining one of Vista's selling points.

And plus, I haven't seen any significant techniques in video games that can only be done in Direct-X 10 as opposed to Direct-X 9.

[Panda X]

XX55XX, on Feb 14 2009, 12:37 PM, said:

They could port it, I believe.

But is it really that prudent to do so? One of Vista's biggest selling points was its much-vaunted Direct-X 10 support. Porting it back to XP would not only be time consuming, it would also be undermining one of Vista's selling points.

And plus, I haven't seen any significant techniques in video games that can only be done in Direct-X 10 as opposed to Direct-X 9.

No you can't.

[Bryant]

Svyat, on Nov 1 2008, 01:53 PM, said:

And I beleave, that soon somebody will make DX10 work on XP/2K3!

No one will do any such thing; it's an utter waste of time. Windows XP as an OS is over 8 years old! People who want to keep supporting it when a perfectly good successor has already come along (Vista SP1) are delusional.

[steve-]

Bryant, on Feb 14 2009, 05:09 PM, said:

Svyat, on Nov 1 2008, 01:53 PM, said:

And I beleave, that soon somebody will make DX10 work on XP/2K3!

No one will do any such thing; it's an utter waste of time. Windows XP as an OS is over 8 years old! People who want to keep supporting it when a perfectly good successor has already come along (Vista SP1) are delusional.

Well in defense of the ignorant delusional people for the most part they are more than likely misguided by false advertising and so on. But to extend what you said, I HATE when people say they "Upgraded to XP!".